| The text in this post applies to all threads in this sub-board. If you choose not to read it or not to follow it, you may be banned without warning. Topic Rules - Existing topics relating to the entry's score/rating/vote brigading/etc are now locked. - All threads created after this timestamp must be only about the story of the anime itself. --- Creating new threads related to the rating or companies cancelling it may lead to immediate bans. - Discussion relating to the entry's score/rating/vote brigading/etc goes here. --- Posts in other discussion threads about this may lead to immediate bans. - Complaints about the decision to nullify all votes related to the brigade (be they up or down votes) can go in this suggestion thread. Discussion Rules This thread is moderated. Violating these rules will result in deleted/modified posts and may lead to immediate bans. - All rules listed below are in addition to the Site & Forum Guidelines; duplicates are only given as general reminders. - NO encouraging vote manipulation (e.g., "Go rate this a 10/1!") - NO trolling/baiting (e.g., "Your taste is shit"). - NO abuse (e.g., "You're retarded"). - NO harassment (including telling other users to ignore user X). - NO spam (click here to see what may constitute as spam) - NO avoiding the minimum character requirement. - NO backseat modding. Please use the report links to report rule violations and let the moderators handle it. What happened to the score? On Wednesday, one YouTuber told his 1 million followers to go to MAL, register an account if necessary, and vote Ishukozu Reviewers a 10. Another YouTuber with 1.4 million followers has now jumped on the bandwagon and told his followers to do the same. Will this be fixed? Yes. MyAnimeList will not tolerate vote brigading. When will it be fixed? Before this incident, the new scoring algorithm created to combat vote manipulation by duplicate accounts was already slated for mid-February. A method to combat vote brigading will now be included as well. Please see Kineta's post for more information. How will you fix it? Please wait for Kineta's announcement. |
Swagernator said: @NoLiferSoul did nothing wrong! Ardanaz said: @Nolifersoul did nothing wrong |
| Wow, never seen an anime forum requiring a moderation like this. This whole thing has really created a huge fuss and lost control quickly. I understand it though, I'm pretty sure almost 100 threads were created in just 2 days. |
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| I hope the creators of Ishuzoku Reviewers find out that it's rated #2 out of all the anime on MyAnimeList somehow and get a nice chuckle out of it knowing they've mobilized tens of thousands of perverts |
| Please delete duplicate accounts voting 1/10 and 10/10 on IR and FMA, from both sides. Thanks |
 Best flowers are @FlowersInTheRain |
| lol I was wondering what happened all of a sudden it jumped to number 2 with a 9 score overnight from like a 7.70. So youtubers were behind this I only saw 2 Nux videos he is okay I guess he got a couple chuckles out of me. |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
ElChOrC said: Please delete duplicate accounts voting 1/10 and 10/10 on IR and FMA, from both sides. Thanks I'm sure they intend to address all of that in addition to all the other review bombing incidents that have happened recently (more like in the past few years I guess). Also it's great that the forums are no longer filled with topics related to this. |
| So a youtuber told people to give it 10s. But why? Cause shit funimation? |
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| People who created accounts just to vote 10 on an anime site just because an anituber said so is cringe-worthy. Mod edit: removed bait |
BrandonFeb 8, 2020 12:45 AM
''Enemies' gifts are no gifts and do no good.'' |
| Thank you!finally something gets done!! |
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Zeppyzep said: Thank you, but discussing companies cancelling it and which services still offer it seems relevant enough and important to me. I advice you to "vote" with your wallet. I'm sure that it will hit the company |
Roloko said: lol I was wondering what happened all of a sudden it jumped to number 2 with a 9 score overnight from like a 7.70. So youtubers were behind this I only saw 2 Nux videos he is okay I guess he got a couple chuckles out of me. Many of us had already rated the show. I voted it 10/10 (deserved, imo, I laugh my ass off with this series) as soon as I saw the first ep, which I watched when I saw a SJW campaign in reddit asking for its cancellation. When funimation actually cancelled it, Nux came up with the idea of asking people to bump it as a protest against SJW and Sony's SJWing, and then Lost Pause also made a video on this. That's all I know |
| Best flowers are @FlowersInTheRain |
ElChOrC said: Please delete duplicate accounts voting 1/10 and 10/10 on IR and FMA, from both sides. Thanks Agree, im fed up of FMAB fanboys spamming one whenever an anime gets near its number 1 spot. |
FlowersInTheRain said: Unpopular Popular opinion:[?] Ishuzoku Reviews is a great show and is just what we needed to kick off the new decade with in 2020! A daring new Ecchi that pushes the limits in very creative and imaginative ways. The show stands at a 10/10 in my book as of epside 4. It keeps getting better and I hope it continues on this glorious path! It may not have reached #1 on MAL ratings but for many of us this show is already #1 in our hearts! I have much love and respect for this show. This is one to be remembered for the ages, boys and girls! (And non-binary) Definitely #1 on the season, long before this started |
| Best flowers are @FlowersInTheRain |
| The score is finally dropping. |
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| So if I am earnestly giving this a 10/10 at the moment, nothing happens, right? Or do I need to remove my current score and wait for some period of time before assigning a score to this anime? Thanks, mod squad. |
iyokorke said: FlowersInTheRain said: Unpopular Popular opinion:[?] Ishuzoku Reviews is a great show and is just what we needed to kick off the new decade with in 2020! A daring new Ecchi that pushes the limits in very creative and imaginative ways. The show stands at a 10/10 in my book as of epside 4. It keeps getting better and I hope it continues on this glorious path! It may not have reached #1 on MAL ratings but for many of us this show is already #1 in our hearts! I have much love and respect for this show. This is one to be remembered for the ages, boys and girls! (And non-binary) I agree with you my friend, if this didn't happen, honestly the show would've probably even gone to 8.0 with the passing of time, all of this honestly was silly. Actually, as he show is being pulled from legal services, it was likely to fall into oblivion |
| Best flowers are @FlowersInTheRain |
RebelPanda said: The score is finally dropping. Tons of fake account from FMAB fanboys spamming 1s, and tons of old accounts spamming 1s out of spite |
| Best flowers are @FlowersInTheRain |
| Id be amazed if a highly sexualised anime manages to actually fix MAL's score problems just because staff suddenly care about this because of Youtuber |
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| Probably a good idea. Partially to moderate the situation better and also to inform people of the actual facts Deknijff said: This has been work in progress ever since the account report thread was locked back in August. Doesn't really have anything to do with Ishuzoku Reviewers' situation. It just kinda happened to coincidentally occur at almost the same time as the already planned fix was ready to be releasedId be amazed if a highly sexualised anime manages to actually fix MAL's score problems just because staff suddenly care about this because of Youtuber |
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Deknijff said: Id be amazed if a highly sexualised anime manages to actually fix MAL's score problems just because staff suddenly care about this because of Youtuber Well, they already announced they are doubling down in the next update (the one that was coming last December) because of this Gippy said: People are rightly concerned that legitimate 10 scores may get nuked by this new "algorithm". In addition, the anti-brigading of this show far outnumbers the anti-brigading of FMA:B. Interspecies Reviewers has about 40% of the 1 scores compared to FMA:B, but has about 7% of the votes. It's not anti-brigading, it's fake accounts from FMAB Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
NoLiferSoulFeb 7, 2020 12:09 PM
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BlakexEkalb said: Thank you mods for controlling the situation. I was just reading the last comments on your thread when it was locked, so I didn't get a chance to write anything. As mostly an onlooker in this whole drama, I have to say I agree with your sentiments about how this "joke" isn't very funny. It seemed as if there were so many people writing stuff just to troll and mess with everyone so I hope some sane support helps any. This has been pretty annoying to follow and the more I look into it the more useless this whole "battle" turns out to be. That it all happened just because some loud youtuber decided to wage an insignificant war for some arbitrary reason makes it even more ridiculous. Hopefully this will all get resolved soon and calm down. |
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thefjords said: BlakexEkalb said: Thank you mods for controlling the situation. I was just reading the last comments on your thread when it was locked, so I didn't get a chance to write anything. As mostly an onlooker in this whole drama, I have to say I agree with your sentiments about how this "joke" isn't very funny. It seemed as if there were so many people writing stuff just to troll and mess with everyone so I hope some sane support helps any. This has been pretty annoying to follow and the more I look into it the more useless this whole "battle" turns out to be. That it all happened just because some loud youtuber decided to wage an insignificant war for some arbitrary reason makes it even more ridiculous. Hopefully this will all get resolved soon and calm down. You got the reason entirely wrong, bro... This happened because a huge bunch of people said F*** Funimation and their SJWing and F*** SJW campaigns on reddit, this show is great and we want it uncancelled |
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NoLiferSoul said: i might get deleted for this but i personally think you sound a bit salty. we have broken NO rules, how do you not know that all these, or at least most, of these reviews are not legitimately their feelings on the show, they're giving your site attention and relevance, they're using the site exactly as it's meant for, your scoring system has long since been flawed anyway given you had fucking pengu as the #1 anime for a while and it's not even an anime so really none of these people have anything to bitch about anyway etc. i wont deny that there are likely most certainly some trollers giving it 10's just to give it 10's but the 10 i gave it i legit gave it because i think it's a 10. this anime deserves to be seen and deserves to be picked up by someone who respects anime and freedom of expression and freedom of speech instead of supporting all this bullshit political correctness and "won't somebody think of the children" bullshit. this series is a breath of fresh air in giving the middle finger to all of that and i think it deserves the high reviews it's getting. Calm down. If the majority of users think that the show deserves high reviews then it will settle near the top over the course of a few months/years. |
| Just imagine the staff of Ishuzoku reviewers having a laugh over this, and decide to meme it / mention this event in an episode, using the score method. It would be hilarious to see it happening |
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HaXXspetten said: Deknijff said: This has been work in progress ever since the account report thread was locked back in August. Doesn't really have anything to do with Ishuzoku Reviewers' situation. It just kinda happened to coincidentally occur at almost the same time as the already planned fix was ready to be releasedId be amazed if a highly sexualised anime manages to actually fix MAL's score problems just because staff suddenly care about this because of Youtuber ElChOrC said: Was unaware MAL had any plans from long ago so colour me surprised tbhWell, they already announced they are doubling down in the next update (the one that was coming last December) because of this  |
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| at least, it was fun to watch the world burn for a few hours. though, you should fix something else too : the fact that you can post a review for an anime after watching only 1 episode of a series instead of the whole show or season of a show. like wtf, it's even worse than the 0-bombing/10-bombing. how is it useful to read a review of a series that's not even finished to begin with ? I mean there's some exceptions like "one piece" or "meitantei conan", but how useful it is for members of MAL to watch reviews of only 1 episode of a show ? how are you supposed to say that for example madoka is good after only 1 episode ? same for school days. even the "3 episodes law" doesn't work, as shows like Steins;Gate really begin high after only half of the series. 3/4 of the reviews written on MAL are actually just useless garbage just because the reviewers didn't wait to watch the whole series before giving an opinion on it. don't get me wrong, I have nothing against those reviewers, but this shouldn't be allowed. you should seriously think about fixing that too. also, to fix the scores, you have multiple ways : - lower the weight of a score if the account is young, for a least the first months, and possibly do the opposite when the account is older. - lower/higher the weight of a score depending of how many anime he has actually seen. I mean, someone who just discovered anime will probably give shows like naruto a 10/10 just because he knows only that. - lower/higher the weight of a score depending of the variance of his scores. basically a guy that only gives 1/10 and 10/10 will have their scores extremely lowered compared to people who give scores that respect more the average law distribution. you add those 3 systerms together and you ban bot accounts, and then you'll get a better score system. |
| Final Fantasy VII is a shitty game. |
| You know I am both subscribe to Nux and Nobel, and regardless what they say I would not go vote something up just because they say so, I gave it a 10/10 for to me it is a 10/10. Also if you think about it it was the other side of the spectrum that started it by vote booming the anime to an abysmal score which it does not deserve in my personal opinion. It is a good show, its funny as hell and the whole idea of it is just genius. People who bash those who give it a high score by calling them virgins and telling them to go watch porn and so forth somehow forget that MAL does allow you to rate Hentai to for it is anime to, and I wish most will accept this fact. I really wish the site grows by the thousands of new weebs that came to put a vote to their guilty pleasure anime this year for I really like the idea of this site. What i do not like is the idea of a Social Justice Gestapo that tell people they are wrong when it is their personal chioce if they want to vote something up or not. Just think about it: someone has to go to a third party site, register on the site and then go vote for something. That takes a lot of effort and most people will not go through this effort if they did not hold the anime in question in high regard. |
ShaggyTheOnlyFeb 7, 2020 12:13 PM
| Nice 👏🏻 I'm usually not one to play the party pooper, bur things have seriously gotten out of hand. Sad that it had to come this far. Aside from all the trouble that was caused, Reviewers is legit a great series and it surely would've been able to climb the ranks and get the attention it deserves thanks to it's own merits. True, it's infamous now, but it came with a lot of damage. Well anyways, hopefully the situation will calm down now. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| This whole fiasco shows just how easy it is to manipulate the score system if you have enough of a following. |
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| Well, it was fun while it lasted. IR won't reach #1 unfortunately, but Nux has accomplished his goal. He flexed on ZA WARUDO by getting this anime to #2 spot and created a huge mess. |
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zebdal said: Yeah I've been thinking something similar. Could also theoretically make it so that people who have seen a lot of anime from the same genre carry more weight when rating shows of that genre than someone who's got little to no experience of it but that might cause debate on what tags every entry should have so I'm not surealso, to fix the scores, you have multiple ways : - lower the weight of a score if the account is young, for a least the first months, and possibly do the opposite when the account is older. - lower/higher the weight of a score depending of how many anime he has actually seen. I mean, someone who just discovered anime will probably give shows like naruto a 10/10 just because he knows only that. - lower/higher the weight of a score depending of the variance of his scores. basically a guy that only gives 1/10 and 10/10 will have their scores extremely lowered compared to people who give scores that respect more the average law distribution. you add those 3 systerms together and you ban bot accounts, and then you'll get a better score system. But in general I think the most important changes should be to make accounts made in the last month or two carry little to no weight in scoring in order to dissuade account spamming, and also accounts that have not been logged into for a long time should carry little to no weight as well (since evidentially those people don't seem to care about the site anymore anyway, and also any leftover throwaway spam accounts will be nullified) |
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ElChOrC said: Please delete duplicate accounts voting 1/10 and 10/10 on IR and FMA, from both sides. Thanks You highlighted a problem that is above the current one: how to extinguish scores manipulators from people who sincerely, based on their own rating system, voted for ANY anime using the highest or the lowest score? Is an argument of "being inspired by somebody" and "doing so massively" even valid? It might open a way for other complaints and accusations of users being manipulative just because they sincerely (if they did, of course) and utterly didn't like/liked one show. |
| So it took a day for mods to realize that these dozens of threads about score were going out of control. Since the website is free, we should probably not complain. Nice to see something being done otherwise. |
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