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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 15:44, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Bengal Pro T20 League

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Don't need separate season articles for this tournament, as the coverage doesn't warrant it. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep @Joseph2302, It is the largest tournament in East and North East India and it's one of the important leagues in India, I presume after a few years it will have same importance as Tamil Nadu Premier League or KSCA tournament, I believe this article should be kept. Beside that, can you please highlight the main issue in this article other than the coverage. A league can't be famous in just one season, it needs time, and this league had enough coverage being a new league according to what I saw in the internet and from the residents of West Bengal. Wowlastic10 (talk) 11:23, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note Several Twenty20 pages have existed includimg thier annual leagues for many years, and in my opinion, it is not appropriate to nominate them for deletion.

It appears that certain teams are selectively promoting specific and state-level leagues while pushing for the deletion of others. This practice seems to favor the retention of pages related to their preferred leagues, potentially at the expense of others.

Wikipedia is a global platform that should uphold the principle of equality for all pages that have significant coverage. It's important to ensure that all state and national leagues with significant covearge, regardless of their popularity or backing, are treated fairly and given the opportunity to be represented. Consistent and unbiased application of Wikipedia's guidelines is crucial to maintaining its integrity as a reliable and inclusive source of information. Davidrun99 (talk) 10:56, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. None of the above keep reasons offer any reasoning whatsoever, just "these exist, so this should too". Clearly, this tournament also fails WP:GNG and consists wholly of WP:NOTSTATS. AA (talk) 14:55, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I haven't told that Just because other tournament exists, this too shall exist. The Tamil Nadu premier league season pages exist because we have given them time. Why don't we give time to this article? Please Highlight how can I save this article rather than demotivating. Thank you! Wowlastic10 (talk) 10:13, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The league is not notable (even majority of the players) or noteworthy enough nationally or internationally to warrant a page on. Fails WP:GNG. No need for separate page when most of the WP:CFORK is from Bengal Pro T20 League RangersRus (talk) 15:45, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    please give suggestions to save this article. I will start research and find all necessary website articles for it. Thank you! Wowlastic10 (talk) 10:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Wowlastic10 not commenting on this but basically what you need is 3 reliable sources with significant coverage; i.e. three news articles from different outlets, independent of the tournament, and not almost-entirely derived from official press releases, giving a couple paragraphs on it would likely work. Strictly you only need "multiple reliable sources" but 3 is the usual amount. I think the article *might* have this now, but I can't tell? Wikipedia notability really isn't supposed to be about how important something is, but how much writing exists on it. Mrfoogles (talk) 19:24, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


  • Comment, Guidelines / Standards for Establishing Wikipedia Notability for State Cricket Leagues:

In my opinion, establishing clear guidelines for creating Wikipedia articles related to state cricket leagues is essential to ensure they meet the notability criteria and have a lasting presence on the platform. To pass the Wikipedia General Notability Guidelines WP:GNG and retain annual league and team articles, I propose the following criteria:

Completion of Multiple Seasons: State leagues, such as the Tamil Nadu Premier League, should successfully complete at least one to three annual league series. This demonstrates consistency, relevance, and the league’s potential for long-term significance in the cricketing landscape.

Involvement of National Players: The state league should feature at least 10 players who have competed in prestigious events such as the Indian Premier League (IPL), national cricket tournaments, or international matches. The presence of such players not only elevates the league's standard but also increases its notability and media coverage.

Minimum Team Requirement and Broadcast Standards: To align with national and international guidelines, the state cricket league should consist of a minimum of six teams. Additionally, the league should be broadcast live on major sports channels like Star Sports, ESPN, or equivalent platforms. This ensures widespread visibility and demonstrates the league’s significance beyond the local level.

By adhering to these guidelines, we can ensure that Wikipedia articles about state cricket leagues are both notable and valuable resources for readers, reflecting the importance of these leagues in the broader context of cricket. Davidrun99 (talk) 23:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just writing the rules/entry criteria for a tournament doesn't mean that it passes WP:GNG, which is the main criteria for whether an article is kept or not (not any of the rules you're making up on this and similar AFDs). Where is the evidence of significant coverage in reliable sources specifically about this season? Joseph2302 (talk) 07:54, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. checking the refs and doing a BEFORE search, I couldn't find any prose reference which described the final, just scorecard websites.no report. So there's not only no WP:SIGCOV, there's not even any WP:ROUTINE of the biggest game. Fails GNG.
Spinin (talk) 01:51, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 19:11, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Regardless of whether articles like this are needed, do the sources establish notability for this league?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete without WP:SALTing. Reviewing the references, I'm on the fence about whether the referencing meets a GNG level or not. Given the newness and existing WP:OFFCRIC practices, I think the right approach is to delete for now, and recreate later if after a few seasons the competition does more clearly meet GNG year after year. Aspirex (talk) 22:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have found articles by Hindustan Times, NDTV Sports, Times of India, News18, are this eleigible? Wowlastic10 (talk) 15:17, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wowlastic10, you can't just say that you found sources, you have to share links so that other editors here can evaluate whether or not they are reliable and provide SIGCOV. But I'd hurry, this AFD might close soon. Liz Read! Talk! 04:47, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz @Joseph2302 These are few reference examples:
1. https://www.news18.com/cricket/bengal-pro-t20-league-2024-full-list-of-matches-squad-details-livestreaming-info-and-more-8928067.html
2. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/writtick-chatterjee-leads-smashers-to-table-top-in-bengal-pro-league/articleshow/111090607.cms
3. https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/bengal-pro-t20-league-t20-is-here-to-stay-it-will-take-cricket-forward-says-ganguly-101714823497909.html
4. https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/bengal-pro-t20-league-ipl-style-format-schedule-and-teams-2522471-2024-04-02
5. https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/cab-declares-launch-of-bengal-pro-t20-league-to-begin-immediately-after-ipl-2024-article-109092046
6. https://www.news18.com/cricket/cab-announce-regional-cricket-league-bengal-pro-t20-to-include-8-mens-and-womens-teams-8838333.html
7. https://www.aninews.in/news/sports/cricket/bengal-pro-t20-league-set-to-kick-off-from-june-202420240421141602
8. https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/sourav-ganguly-jhulan-goswami-unveil-bengal-pro-t20-league-champions-trophy-2535036-2024-05-03 Wowlastic10 (talk) 13:21, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My view: [1] is WP:ROUTINE coverage. [2] looks okay as a source about 2024 season. [3], [4], [5] are about the general tournament (which is not up for deletion) rather than the specific season article. [6], [7], [8] are regurgitated press releases. I'm not against Bengal Pro T20 League article existing, but don't believe we need individual season articles. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:31, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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