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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Another good episode, we get a lot of exposition regarding Wano before Orochi and Kaido's reign. I found Oden's seiyuu very fitting for his character. The clash of Ashura and Oden could've been a little more impactful like a samurai duel but I won't complain, after all the main focus of the episode is showing fragments of the story of wano and all those elements were perfectly handled with the typical level of japanese drama (They really know how to make tearful and emotive events ) that I love and with little to no filler, bravo Toei. And regarding the time travellers, I said it before back when the chapter dropped and I'm saying it now, Oda knows how to handle these risky elements. I dare to say that this episode is on par with the manga chapter. |
EvocationWizardNov 17, 2019 11:59 AM
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| Fantastic backstory! Momonosuke's tearful separation with his mother was my highlight in the episode. I may say Overall it was pretty a touchy episode. Orochi is a bastard, I wonder what form of deal did he form with Kaido? I would like a further backstory of how they encountered each other. |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
twoego said: So that's how it all went, well, how else could they travel through time. Good that the devil fruit allowed one to only travel to the future and not the past. A satisfying explanation. Yup,same feeling I had when I read it in the manga. |
| Great episode....... |
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| She decides to stay she has a devil fruit that can make you go into the future but not the past in its make sense cuz if we can go to the past Bon-chan could be alive ace could be alive Roger could be alive Marineford would not happen fam but Marineford has to happen for the time-skip to happen to realize how weak we are. Oden was with Roger,Oden knew what the secret was because fam he was in Rogers crew remember in Zou fam but obviously Shanks don't remember he was a kid fam,maybe I should go back and rewatch that. You know what's deep dudes,Momonosuke if you are 8 years old and you are attached to your mother and you have the chance to go into the future I guarantee you there are some of us that would stay even if it means we are going to die as long as we know we are going to die with out mother.You would stay with your mother fam because for a kid fam the mother is everything fam. Yo One Piece once again fam. "People can't never go back to the past but could go to the future" it makes sense. When watching Zou the first time you would not understand why was he begging Luffy,yeah he wanted his assistance but now fam looking back at that scene you understand how impactful it is the way he loved his father,the way he dies. This was the other day,for Luffy and the others it's 20 years ago. but not for them fam. It's sad that all the good things Oden did to Wano it's all been vanished you know what I mean,it's all been taught as something that is a myth that never happened.Orochi and Kaido are teaching the younger people of Wano the complete opposite that these guys were evil and they wanted Wano for themselves yooo,that is how you bring up a generation upon falsehood fam. This Oden guy gives you the Whitebeard feel fam and not every character give you that feel fam. Even the dog and cat look up to him.That's why Raizo and the dogs were in a state of break when they were talking about Oden,after this flashback you can see why. I am getting Dressrosa vibes. |
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| Excellent pacing for the past 2-3 episodes. Loving the Wano arc, hyped af for what it holds. Really curious about what happened to Momo's mother and sister(probably). I have a gut feeling that they are still alive. Fingers crossed. Also, I love how One Piece never goes too tryhard mode to explain its powers, time-traveling kept simple af really works smoothly in One Piece's case. Any other anime or tv show would go cringe pseudo-science mode (looking at you, Endgame). 5/5 |
cchiguNov 16, 2019 9:54 PM
| "Life is too bitter, so coffee, at least should be sweet..." - Hikigaya Hachiman (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatte Iru) |
| Man this was a great episode. So Kozuki Toki sent them into the future using the power of Toki Toki no Mi, glad that the explanation was great. Also the backstory was touching and I wonder what happened to Momo's mom and sister. |
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| I wonder when was oden's wife originally born... and to only travel in the future hmmm |
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| Damn there exist even a time-time fruit, that must be one of the most powerfull fruits to exist So if those samurai are from 20 years in the past, that means that momosuke is older than luffy, interesting |
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MegamiRem said: Man this was a great episode. So Kozuki Toki sent them into the future using the power of Toki Toki no Mi, glad that the explanation was great. Also the backstory was touching and I wonder what happened to Momo's mom and sister. Reckon momos mum dies and his sister will show up later is my guess. |
| As I thought, the only way to travel into the future is with a devil fruit. Strangely enough you can only travel into the future with Time-Time-Fruit. One would think the opposite would also be possible. The pace and timing was really good in this ep. A non-manga reader would hardly notice any dragging of the content. They were even able to tell the whole past of Oden-sama in only 1 ep. I would expect they would use 2-3 ep. for that. :P Zoro is wandering off again. With his sense of direction he will end up at Kaido's base. xD |
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cchigu said: ...Any other anime or tv show would go cringe pseudo-science mode (looking at you, Endgame)... Thank lord I haven't watched that shitty movie. Will probably never either. |
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UzumakiKhanMAL said: She decides to stay she has a devil fruit that can make you go into the future but not the past in its make sense cuz if we can go to the past Bon-chan could be alive ace could be alive Roger could be alive Marineford would not happen fam but Marineford has to happen for the time-skip to happen to realize how weak we are. Oden was with Roger,Oden knew what the secret was because fam he was in Rogers crew remember in Zou fam but obviously Shanks don't remember he was a kid fam,maybe I should go back and rewatch that. You know what's deep dudes,Momonosuke if you are 8 years old and you are attached to your mother and you have the chance to go into the future I guarantee you there are some of us that would stay even if it means we are going to die as long as we know we are going to die with out mother.You would stay with your mother fam because for a kid fam the mother is everything fam. Yo One Piece once again fam. "People can't never go back to the past but could go to the future" it makes sense. When watching Zou the first time you would not understand why was he begging Luffy,yeah he wanted his assistance but now fam looking back at that scene you understand how impactful it is the way he loved his father,the way he dies. This was the other day,for Luffy and the others it's 20 years ago. but not for them fam. It's sad that all the good things Oden did to Wano it's all been vanished you know what I mean,it's all been taught as something that is a myth that never happened.Orochi and Kaido are teaching the younger people of Wano the complete opposite that these guys were evil and they wanted Wano for themselves yooo,that is how you bring up a generation upon falsehood fam. This Oden guy gives you the Whitebeard feel fam and not every character give you that feel fam. Even the dog and cat look up to him.That's why Raizo and the dogs were in a state of break when they were talking about Oden,after this flashback you can see why. I am getting Dressrosa vibes. For your information |
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| Best episode of wano arc so far |
| So they can only travel to the future, that at least makes things easier. Because that means they can't change what happened and there is only one timeline. I still don't get why she decided to send them 20 years into the future, why to that time specifically? |
ibraheem234 said: I wonder when was oden's wife originally born... and to only travel in the future hmmm Some folks on youtube, speculate that she might be from the void century and that she's mastermind behind the creation of poneglyph's  If that's the case, she would be the biggest enemy of the world government, and most likely, Wano would be destroyed just like Ohara |
| @Rukodaime91 Don't worry, a more in-depth backstory surrounding Oden is currently going on in the manga right now so this episode is definitely not going to be the full extent of what you see regarding his character. |
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Reapermask said: Damn there exist even a time-time fruit, that must be one of the most powerfull fruits to exist So if those samurai are from 20 years in the past, that means that momosuke is older than luffy, interesting By day of birth, yes he is, but, biologically, he's still younger than Luffy because time travel didn't make him 20 years older  |
Rukodaime91 said: Hopefully we get more information later because, in this episode, we barely see anything related to Oden. We don't see him interacting with any samurai (kin'emon etc), with his son, with his wife... We don't even see his actual face... If you sum up kin'emon just told us "hey, there is this guy who was bored and made a village" (obviously they don't show anything about this part, just claiming he achieved that at 20 years old => which is basically lazy writings) and all of sudden the mugiwara are all crying saying he was an hero. Sorry. Don't feel anything for this guy. You can tell me how much he was great, how much Whitebeard and Roger respected him... But, if you don't show me... I don't care. From what I have seen, he did not even achieve 1% in comparison of what luffy achieved. He just beat some random dude and did not judge other people because of their appearence. That's basically it. Also, we don't see him dying. We don't see what's the betrayal was about. About the mother : Doesn't help she was just introduced before doing the probably worst choice in history which is "to stay there" because shet met "Oden". What about her son ? The argumentation to stay was so weak... We are talking about dying here. Usually I don't really want flashback to drag on, but, this time, it could have been better. |
| So she travelled from the past into the future...I wonder how far? |
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| Kinemon's story had everyone so heated and emotional lmaooo, I'm glad that the time time fruit can only leap people into the future cuz I thought they came from the past to fix shit. That'd be to ridiculous and overpowered if you really think about it but thankfully it's just a future thing. Good writing on Oda's part |
| This episode works so well with the recent manga chapter. |
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| Absolute amazing episode. To see such a great backstory is one of the best things ever. Now I really understand the deep relationship between the Minks and Oden. It's crazy what he created in such a young age. No wonder that Whitebeard was impressed by him and also that he travelled together with Roger. Fuck Ororchi and Kaido. We all die at some point, that's absolute normal, but the way Oden died is just cruel. I felt the same way Luffy did when Kinemon mentioned that. So the time travel was because Momonosukes mom had the time fruit? That must be one of the craziest abilities I have seen so far in One Piece. Nonetheless now it will come to an important point where they finally make a plan for attacking Ororchi and Kaido. I just hope Zoros doesn't get lost :D |
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| Can't help but feel like Luffy and the others were overreacting a little bit. But anyway, if Oden is really well loved then how did he was branded a criminal? Looking forward to a convincing reason for this |
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| Oden was a fucking legend and I'm pissed that he died under circumstamces like that. Can't wait when Orochi and Kaido get paid back for that. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Cool to hear a bit about Oden. It's sad knowing how he eventually ended up... |
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bartojuro said: don't check wiki you might get spoiled on something else, if you want me to i will send you the right cover stories in which he is shown in the manga. Yeah, that's probably a better idea. I have got a lot of spoiler from there. :P |
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| Well, now I have more questions than answers, Oden’s wife had a devil fruit to travel through time, so when does she came and where’s that devil fruit now. She and her daughter could’ve survived in other time, but this whole stuff adds a lot of options to explain, a time devil fruit needs a restriction that doesn’t make it too chaotic. I couldn’t cry with Oden’s backstory, sorry, but I barely know the guy. |
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| This anime has been going for 2 decades and still has fresher content than other shitty new /isekai/romance/ecchi anime. Great job Oda! |
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| Great episode, just goes to show there's a Fruit for almost everything! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| Hmmm welll everyone suited up i guess |
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| I wonder if Toki really died, it would be cool if she appears again. |
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| Wait, so why did she not send Hiyori with them and who the hell is the 5th person that went with them? The one with a purple top and long black hair? Atlas77 said: Yeah felt a bit weird seeing the whole crew sob so hard but I guess it made it more touching.I couldn’t cry with Oden’s backstory, sorry, but I barely know the guy. |
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| Tragic story. It truly is sad when a good person becomes a bad person due to rumors.. |
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| The pain of the samurai was felt, as is the respect towards Oden. The way those in support bowed to the "ghosts" reappearing 20 years later, it reminded me of when Riku's men did the same to him. Bastardized, turned into villains, the "ghosts" are back and will continue Oden's dream. I'm all about it, the good country / bad invader pet peeve of mine is back, but if it helps perpetuate the ideas of the arc as it has already done, I'm all for it. I couldn't be more excited for the samurai to take the spotlight, I've wanted this ever since Kin'emon was introduced. |
| What a great episode 10/10. I still wonder why Toki didn't send Hiyori to the future? |
| Time travel, really? Even if there are so many random powers, I feel like this doesn't fit at all in the One Piece universe. Also this devil fruit is supposed to return to the world after the owner dies, but let me guess.. it is conveniently never mentioned again. |
| Hold on just a moment, I don't recall for there to be a backstory about Oden and the Akazaya 9 this early on? I remembered some key info being introduced to the audience for the sake of plot integrity and just a brief description of what a man Oden is and his accomplishment but not at this scale. This is quite honestly a smart way to elongate the ep, however, it only serves to confuse some of the audience. How can one feel the emotions that they're feeling completely having little to no clue about Oden? Nevertheless, this backstory was quite a tear-jerker, even more so for me who knew the real backstory. The anime-only audience is being teased and blue balled to hell on this ep's 'backstory' |
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| Time travel? I, uh, don't really know how to react to that. I think nowadays, I'm really cautious around stories that use time travel, as it tends to overcomplicate things. |
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